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Can Linkedin Company Profiles be Effective?? September 14, 2010

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We recently got an email circulated around work about the use of Linkedin. This contained the announcement that our firm is embracing social media.

Our firm’s page (one of several apparently) like most company profiles simply states our “stats” and a few employees have  joined. The head of marketing wrote a whole piece about how we are going to use linkedin to get clients, trainees etc. In my mind these were empty words and wishful thinking. No proper strategy was circulated to the employees – we were simply told if you are on linkedin this is our company page. The email drew the page to our attention so they did get a couple more people to sign up.

In my office there are less than 100 people on Linkedin, surprisingly a lot of these members are on my team of 30ish. But the set up of the firm as a whole is not well represented. With such a large firm and multiple offices, I don’t really understand what the marketing team hope to achieve. (Maybe as I have newly entered the workplace and don’t yet have the connections to have a properly useful linkedin experience I don’t see the full benefit.) But I’ve always thought of linkedin as being more useful on a personal basis, and it is more about each individual’s efforts and connections, and the use of a company profile is somewhat limited. We do not use the custom company profile (and I don’t know if this is of any use).

To attract clients, we need to be offering a service. An extra service. A personal service. Not simply citing we have X offices and are highly recommended for XY and Z. Everyone already knows that from legal websites/publications. On a daily basis my supervising partner has proper interaction with current and prospective clients, long phone calls and face-to-face meetings as necessary – assisted by people like me who can be on hand to answer everything a client might need to know at anytime. Chatty, friendly but professional. This works. In comparison our current approach with social media is severely lacking. It needs to equal our traditional client service.

As for attracting trainees that is a completely different matter.

We attract trainees the same way any big firm does – our reputation, links with local law schools, law fairs and a good website. We don’t (yet) use social media. Is linkedin an answer? I don’t think linkedin will do anything extra to raise awareness of our firm (unlike twitter, or blogging) nor do I think it will improve the quality of trainees applying (they are already mostly first class degree/oxbridge students). It will not be a case of finding trainees on linkedin who will walk into the job based on their Linkedin Profile (not when current employees cannot be recommended for trainee positions (a long standing complaint)). and the larger Law firms are not in the business of head-hunting trainees. yet. (Although in some firms they are recommended). Besides if you are good – you don’t necessarily need social media to be known. Even as a paralegal, other firms (that I had no direct contact with in my job)  had heard I was good at my job (a surreal experience) and told me this when turned up for an interview.

From a personal point of a view I would think the firm would benefit more from utilising a twitter account or blog. To draw attention to the firm in a positive way. Obviously there is more effort required with a blog or twitter (and more issues about what can be posted and by who etc). But I think even the bigger firms could make it work for them.

I’ve previously discussed facebook pages which are obviously more focused at recruiting trainees (my firm does not have one). But is this idea really any better?

Law Firm Fan Pages on Facebook February 20, 2010

Posted by travisthetrout in Facebook, Job hunting, Social media.
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I was having a nosy round my Law School’s Alumni page on Facebook. It’s is now a couple of years since we all graduated and I decided to have a look to see what fellow classmates were up to these days. Turns out, they were up to a wide variety of things, some expected, and some not – but nothing all that exciting.

What I did come across which got my interest was DLA’s fan page aimed at graduates and those of us seeking training contracts. Maybe I’ve just been ignorant but in my experience law firm pages on Facebook are usually unofficial groups created by employees to mix or by trainees prior to the commencement of their training contract so they can get to know each other. Any “fan page” is put to limited use. But maybe they have gotten better since I last looked?

So having a closer look at DLA’s Fan page.

Well the fan page appears to be a good thing because it gives the general factual information about the firm, tells you about open-days, deadlines and their current trainees – but the most useful (and interesting) aspect is the discussion board( as the rest can be found on their website already).

However, I am unsure whether I’d ever “become a fan” of them. Why? Well you can still access the discussion board without being a fan. It’s a great interactive resource, but I’ve got to ask if I really want it published on my Facebook page? Also, realistically, as a prospective trainee you are going to be interested in a wide range of firms, do you want your friends (and potentially the other law firms) knowing what other firms are on your wish list. And there are of course also issues of alerting your current employer you are dreaming of pastures new (if you are already working rather than still being a student). Thoughts?

Having found the DLA Piper one, I was trying to find if there was an easy way to find other law firm fan pages that were aimed at prospective trainees. It wasn’t that simple. But here are a few I found:

  • Linklaters – who have a basic fan page giving a link to their website. Their wall action is also limited and there are people basically posting their credentials and begging for an opportunity. Allen & Overy have a similar set up with just the basic information.
  • Eversheds LLP – seem to have a great set up like a mini website with links to their blog, twitter and even flickr. Also a very interactive page with lots of links and videos. However, their discussion page has nothing on it, which is disappointing.
  • Clifford Chance – they have a lot of wall activity made by them (none by fans), nor is there any discussion – so I feel it is of limited value. Plenty of factual information and videos, but I see no reason why they can’t be accessed on their website.

I’ve also got to wonder if it is worthwhile from the firms point of view. Do we equate value with the number of fans – Ashford’s appear to have only five fans, Pannone LLP has none.

There is also the need to maintain and update the fan page like any other form of social media. Done well, they seem to be great pages, but I feel the effort would be better spent on their website, particularly if they could incorporate the interactive and somewhat beneficial aspects into their graduate website.

Of course I have been talking about the big firms here. There is no reason why a bit of Facebook interaction couldn’t be worthwhile for the smaller firms to help raise awareness about themselves. There appears to be a lot of small firms with a handful of fans, that I can find. Downside, you need to search, or know of them to find them – therefore in my view a service like twitter is much better for getting some publicity because everyone links, and shares stuff and it is more interesting content – not me, me, me all the time (despite what those who fail to understand twitter tell us) and therefore present more of an opportunity for smaller firms to interact – many of course, already do.

Facebook says they’re “In a Relationship” January 12, 2010

Posted by travisthetrout in Facebook, Life at Medium Sized Law Firm, Social media, Working Life.
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Passing through the firm’s incoming post today was a couple of printed out profile pages from facebook with a note.

” As can be seen on these Facebook pages, the ‘witness’ is said to be in a relationship with the ‘otherside’ and therefore cannot be an independent witness. It says on both of their pages (and as can be seen in the photographs) they are in a relationship with each other… blah blah blah…”

I’m not sure whether the client in question actually knew these people or was Facebook stalking them? Either way he was getting down to business and complaining we hadn’t sorted it out etc etc. Does this mean Facebook stalking is becoming part of our job description?

I am now on facebook January 6, 2010

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Inspired by Michael at Law Actually, I decided to get a Facebook profile in my blogging identity – So feel free to add me.

[LPC] Teaching with twitter – any use on the LPC? April 21, 2009

Posted by travisthetrout in Legal Practice Course (LPC), Twitter.
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I read (and commented) earlier in the month on an article about a class where discussion was encouraged in class using twitter (Chronicle).This involved much of the discussion in class being via twitter and appearing on the projector screen.

On the LPC, we discuss things heavily – both as a group and in sub-groups working on tasks.This also includes the more practical things like conducting a negotiation. Would this work on a platform like twitter? Probably not.

On the LLB we had an couple of Internet law classes – we all brought our laptops to class and engaged in some online interaction (it was in fact that very class that got me signed up to twitter in the first place). We set up a class blog and class wiki, hoping for class participation – but it never took off. I think a total of 3 people in addition to our tutor commented, and then gave up, highlighting the need for people to get involved for something like this to work.

I can obviously understand the use of twitter in an undergrad class – keeps your students interested – and dare I say it, everyone is likely to be passing notes or on the internet anyway. But on the LPC, we’re back to good old fashioned paper (compared to LLB) and no one uses laptops. However people do tend to “show off” more on the LPC, so maybe that could be used to our advantage. People would be more willing to participate.

But before disregarding a tool like twitter, just because of lack of discussion or it merely being another distraction – you’ve got to consider the benefits:

Firstly, it would be a breath of fresh air in a three hour class.

Secondly, the advantage it has for the hearing impaired, like me. To see the discussion in writing would be a god-send – it would be like the SUBTITLES of life. My studies would be considerably easier, not to mention there would be a record of what was said (whether it was right or wrong) – no furiously scribbling notes, only to realise it’s end up more like a fill-in-the-blanks and you’ve missed the conclusion.

and finally, the potential to engage in a full discussion. Whether its because some people don’t like contributing, or someone won’t let anyone else get a word in – twitter, potentially, could allow everyone to participate and say what they think (having thought about their comment first) – there are always those interesting comments that never get heard; people are smarter than you think sometimes and people surprise you – I would like to hear that different stuff every once in a while.

[networking] Social media recruitment – are we barking up the wrong tree? April 13, 2009

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Techcrunch Europe talks about Brave New Talent this week; Real Lawyers have Blogs talks about law students using linked in.

So doing what any keen student would do, I decided to check out these out.

Brave New Talent:

You sign up, all the information you give is the usual stuff (details I don’t like posting on the net to begin with, but here goes nothing).

So once I’m signed up, I’m a little confused about how you browse. From what I can tell it is a simple search box and you need to know the name of the employer you are looking for. I can’t seem to search by industry which is disappointing.

So decided to do some law firms, to see what I could find – yep, I found a few, London firms, magic circle firms, but no firms that I am applying for or would be interested in – this includes both top 100 firms and smaller firms. Surely a service like this is only beneficial if:

  1. There is more than a handful of an employers – there needs to be more – granted its only started, but it needs publicity.
  2. It includes smaller firms and employers, as there is enough connections with large firms, it should be about getting the smaller firms involved.
  3. Its more than a PR stunt. Any firm that actually is on the site, needs to be real and properly represented and they needs to be social.
  4. the site needs to be more social.

The service from what I’ve seen, has not attracted a lot of attention. Only 300 odd employers. Yes it’s British, and yes it’s a start up, social networking doesn’t have the same lure, concept is good, but it needs a lot of work. But hopefully the best is to come.

Linked In

Okay, linked in, is the established one, most professionals are on it. So I’ll just make a few brief points. I’ve signed up before and browsed it – but never really seen the point as a student. Companies have profiles, employees have profiles but from a students point of view I don’t see the worth if you’re in the UK. All the major law schools in the states have groups and connections, that’s good for them, but here in the UK we seem to be falling behind. It’s not essential for us. But, maybe that’s a good thing.

Sure social recruitment and social networking provide opportunities, gets you in touch with people – Brave New Talent is specifically for the purpose of recruitment – this is a good idea. Linked in, I feel like I’m being rude if I don’t already know a person, or at least met them. My fb is restricted to my closest friends and I think that Linked in will be a great resource when I finally get employed, but not before. Maybe something like Brave New Talent is what we need to bridge the gap – a place where it is acceptable to approach recruiters, and the employer’s want to be approached and will actually notice you and want to talk to you. It will be interesting to see what develops.

[Twitter] Copyrightable, infringement or simply a publishing opportunity? April 7, 2009

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I’m not going to agonise over the legal issues, I leave that to the real lawyers, but just jotting down a few thoughts on the matter.

Twitter as a publishing mechanism similar to blogging has opened up a range of possibilities. Old things done in new ways, from fan-fiction to how to’s, news reporting to the daily diary, the possibilities can be perceived as endless.

As always, this raises issue of copyright. The question “Are Tweets copyrightable?”  has provoked debate by many (such as The Legal Satyricon and Tech Dirt), in particular what appears to be the original source of debate Blog Maverick. My opinion? its all down to originality (don’t you just love buzzwords), but hey, it really depends on circumstances, and no doubt will one day open up fierce debate.

If we debate whether there is copyright in tweets, we obviously need to consider the other side of the coin: is there copyright infringement in tweets? Some people just tweet other people’s stuff (such as TwitterLitUK which tweets the first lines of books). or promote/link to such things. usually without permission. However,  given that its only 140 characters… I figure it would be hard to prove infringement and there is a strong fair use argument (compared to say regular blogging). Being British I would say surely no one would seriously take action… but with the cases that come out of the states, you never know.

Of course there are those that are producing their own stuff. Original in their own right. As it can be seen people are using twitter a way to get published, offline as well as online. Examples of this are blogged about at FiledBy Author: Twit Lit. Such “Lit” includes 2 years of tweets in a tweetbook and short stories comprised of tweets. interesting concept – from what I have read, there is a certain novel entertainment value. Maybe I’ll try writing a book this way. Of course, books resulting from blogs have been happening for a while now (most recently it was announced that much read BabyBarista joined the ranks of the outted and to-be published blogger), but given that blogs are more “chunky” this is understandable that blog content would fill a book and generate a plot.

So which is twitter, copyrightable, infringement or a publishing opportunity? All three.

Juror Jonathan March 15, 2009

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Only noticed this today, but apparently it’s been getting a lot of media attention (here, here and here). The juror, now known as Juror Jonathan twittered before and after jury duty – the tweets appear to be harmless simply informing friends about his jury duty. The defendants are clearly looking for any excuse to appeal, and clearly have no idea about the internet. I would say typical of America, but I’m sure the same fuss would have been made here. unfortunately.

I am in disbelief at how this has even become an issue. Surely everyone should get that “two angry men” is simply a reference to 12 angry men (which to be honest it the only thing most people know about jury service) and that they were not looking for help on the verdict. The verdict had already been made when he tweeted. (The Verdict is another cracking law movie, well worth a comparison with 12 Angry Men).

What needs to be fixed here, is the lack of understanding of how technology works. The one simple rule approach blogged about by Deliberations, would definitely be a good starting point.

Twitter March 13, 2009

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So this week I’ve had more free time on my hands than usual – first week of the electives, down to 3 days a week – what’s not to love.

This week’s project has ended up being quite a big one – getting myself on Twitter. Now I’ve had an account for a while, my ILaw tutor was very web 2.0 and introduced us all to the concept. A year later, more people are on it, I’ve expanded my blog subscriptions, so yes, twitter is another was to benefit from interesting blog posts.

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Signing up is easy, enter some details and away you go: but actually learning how to twitter took a fair bit of reading.

Once you’ve read all about how to use twitter, then its time to find people to follow. With regards to general browsing I found a number of interesting lists to help generate possibilities:

That should be enough to keep you amused. Of course the most useful resources for finding people to follow are actual friends and contacts as well as the people behind the blogs you regularly read.

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